{"id":847,"date":"2006-05-04T00:21:06","date_gmt":"2006-05-03T22:21:06","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.larshvidberg.dk\/?p=787"},"modified":"2006-05-04T00:21:06","modified_gmt":"2006-05-03T22:21:06","slug":"guantanamo-pornofilm-sadosex-og-fangevogtere-med-kippa","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.whiteberg.dk\/?p=847","title":{"rendered":"Guantanamo: Pornofilm, sadosex og fangevogtere med kippa"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Der er allerede blevet sagt og skrevet rigtig meget om fangebasen <strong>Guantanamo<\/strong>, hvor s\u00e5kaldte &#8216;fjendtlige kombattanter&#8217; tilfangetagne i Afghanistan holdes indelukket p\u00e5 femte \u00e5r. Hvad der egentlig foreg\u00e5r p\u00e5 basen er g\u00e5defuldt, men stadig flere beretninger slipper ud og bringes i mediernes s\u00f8gelys.<\/p>\n<p>Jeg skal v\u00e6re den f\u00f8rste til at udtrykke kritik af de juridisk usikre forhold for fangerne p\u00e5 Guantanamo-basen og den mulige behandling af dem, selvom jeg dog har sv\u00e6rt ved at goutere forargelsen over, at fangerne ikke er blevet stillet for en dommer eller ikke har f\u00e5et en retssag &#8211; de er jo en slags krigsfanger og har som s\u00e5dan ikke borgerrettigheder. Men derfor kan man selvf\u00f8lgelig godt behandle dem v\u00e6rdigt og humant. Alligvel undrer det mig, at s\u00e5 mange tilsyneladende uden videre tager tidligere Guantanamo-fangers udsagn om, hvad der foreg\u00e5r i lejren, for gode varer. Det virker som om kildekritikken stopper, bare man kan bringe USA i et d\u00e5rligt lys.<\/p>\n<p>Den ene alvorlige unge mand efter den anden fort\u00e6ller om ydmygende behandling med mere, fra vores egen <a href=\"http:\/\/www.larshvidberg.dk\/?p=456\">Slimane Hadj Abderrahmane<\/a> til Amnestys tre hovedattraktioner i <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amnesty.dk\/\">Stop Tortur<\/a>-kampagnen. Jeg skal naturligvis ikke udelukke, at de taler sandt, men det virker som om medierne overhovedet ikke er villige til at stille kritiske sp\u00f8rgsm\u00e5l. Er man fx ikke opm\u00e6rksomme p\u00e5 de involveredes egne aktier i sagen? Har man virkelig slet ingen id\u00e9 om, hvorfor de veltalende unge mennesker befandt sig i Afghanistan i f\u00f8rste omgang? Det svarer jo alts\u00e5 nogenlunde til at bede George Bush give et objektivt bidrag om krigen i Irak. Man aner jo nok, hvilket svar man f\u00e5r. Men heldigvis er det jo et svar, de fleste har <a href=\"http:\/\/www.modspil.dk\/politik\/_du_er_p__guantanamo__du_har_ingen_rettigheder_.html\">lyst <\/a>til at h\u00f8re. Og det er sikkert heller ikke helt l\u00f8gn. Men det er p\u00e5 den anden side nok heller ikke hele sandheden.<\/p>\n<p>Under alle omst\u00e6ndigheder er det interessant at se, hvad Guantanamo-fanger fort\u00e6ller til ikke-vestelige medier om deres oplevelser. Her er i hvert fald et eksempel p\u00e5 en beretning, som 1) tilfredsstiller et ganske bestemt publikums behov for en historie, de har lyst til at h\u00f8re, og 2) er ren og sk\u00e6r l\u00f8gn. <strong>Ibrahim Sen<\/strong>, der har siddet i Guantanamo, fort\u00e6ller til det tyrkiske, islamistiske dagblad <a href=\"http:\/\/www.vakit.com.tr\/\">Vakit<\/a> (transskriberet af <a href=\"http:\/\/memri.org\/bin\/articles.cgi?Page=archives&amp;Area=sd&amp;ID=SP114706\">Memri<\/a>, tyrkisk udgave hos <a href=\"http:\/\/66.249.93.104\/search?q=cache:nXLuuqzOJaAJ:www.vakit.com.tr\/index.php%3Fsayfa%3Dhaber%26haber%3D7565+Vakit+Ibrahim+Sen&amp;hl=da&amp;gl=dk&amp;ct=clnk&amp;cd=3&amp;client=firefox-a\">google<\/a> &#8211; man kan tydeligt se ordet &#8216;kippa&#8217;):<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><strong><em>Vakit<\/em><\/strong>: &#8220;How were you received at Guantanamo?&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Sen<\/strong>: &#8220;The same way as at the military base in Kandahar. We were received with attacks by U.S. soldiers. Even though we were chained and our heads were covered, they kept beating us. My entire body was bleeding. I passed out. When I woke, I was in an interrogation room. They had removed the sack from my head. Facing me were 10 soldiers with Jewish skullcaps on their heads, four women and six men, and a Turkish translator. [\u2026] One of the soldiers instructed the women soldiers to strip me. The women soldiers cut my clothes with scissors and left me [\u2026] naked. [\u2026]&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><strong><em>Vakit<\/em><\/strong>: &#8220;You mentioned soldiers with skullcaps. Were there many of these at Guantanamo?&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Sen<\/strong>: &#8220;I can tell you. Ninety percent of the soldiers at Guantanamo wore skullcaps. They all had Jewish names. There were also 15 rabbis in Guantanamo that we counted. At least one rabbi was present during interrogations [\u2026]&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><strong><em>Vakit<\/em><\/strong>: &#8220;For how long did you stay in the interrogation room?&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Sen<\/strong>: &#8220;I was subjected to continuous torture for 10 days straight. They kept asking me where Osama bin Laden and Mullah Omar could be found. [\u2026] Then they took me to another room where there was a TV. They made me watch an immoral film. They beat me and gave me more electricity whenever I lowered my head. After that, two soldiers carried out [sexual] activity with one another in front of everyone. A woman soldier asked me to do the same. [\u2026] When I refused, they took me to the &#8216;insanity room.&#8217; [\u2026]&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Pornofilmen lyder umiddelbart ikke s\u00e5 slem. Men hvem kan holde til at blive forh\u00f8rt af en rabbiner?<\/p>\n<p>F\u00f8rst set hos <a href=\"http:\/\/angantyr.blogspot.com\/2006\/04\/hvad-der-er-tortur-for-dig-er-ikke.html\">Angantyr<\/a>.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Der er allerede blevet sagt og skrevet rigtig meget om fangebasen Guantanamo, hvor s\u00e5kaldte &#8216;fjendtlige kombattanter&#8217; tilfangetagne i Afghanistan holdes indelukket p\u00e5 femte \u00e5r. Hvad der egentlig foreg\u00e5r p\u00e5 basen er g\u00e5defuldt, men stadig flere beretninger slipper ud og bringes i mediernes s\u00f8gelys. Jeg skal v\u00e6re den f\u00f8rste til at udtrykke kritik af de juridisk &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/www.whiteberg.dk\/?p=847\" class=\"more-link\">L\u00e6s mere <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">Guantanamo: Pornofilm, sadosex og fangevogtere med kippa<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[25],"tags":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.whiteberg.dk\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/847"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.whiteberg.dk\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.whiteberg.dk\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.whiteberg.dk\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.whiteberg.dk\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=847"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.whiteberg.dk\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/847\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.whiteberg.dk\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=847"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.whiteberg.dk\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=847"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.whiteberg.dk\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=847"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}